Here is why I think that smart bikes might have role which is no. T being exploited yet:Anyone who has followed Titaniumgeek for more than a summer knows I have a grumpy RIGHT knee. 🦵So far I have had FIVE bike fits, FOUR different bikes, THREE MRI’s, numerous pedal types, and more physio than I would like to cost up.Yet, the knee remains grumpy, and tends to be more upset on a turbo trainer than outside.On a “locked down” trainer such as a KICKR, and Drivo normally I can do 30-45 mins and then I get a little discomfort. I can extend that to nearly an hour if I’m on a “live” trainer like a Neo or a @Kinetic.by.kurt R1 but I’ll likely have a little swelling after. Not the end of the world, but I’ve always been jealous of the 3-4 hour turbo warriors 🚴‍♂️So I’ve been playing with the Tacx Neo bike now since September, and regularly tweak the position on it. 🔧Today I did 30mins, no issues, which is odd as the Neo Bike is VERY rigid, and no flex. 45mins came and went, still going strong.

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55mins in the ITB band on the RIGHT leg said hello, but then was subdued back again. 88 mins later I got off the bike as I needed to go back to typing.

And no issues with the knee!!!! 😁 😁Perhaps this is because I recently swapped the crank lengths? 172.5 on the RIGHT leg, 170mm on the LEFT, perhaps is was pulling the saddle back again, I don’t know. 🤷‍♂️But even if you have the MONEY to pay for a boat load of cranks of different lengths, it is NOT a 30 second job swapping them over. However on a smart bike like the Neo, KICKR or Stages, it’s a doddleI REALLY think that smart bikes could be an additional part of “super bike fit service”.Rent the smart bike for a month, micro-adjust as needed, and either move those settings to your road bike or use them as a guide for purchasing your new bike.Heck the Wahoo app already has a bike fit for their smart bike, so it wouldn’t be a stretch to set up something like thisThe question for me really is - was this ride a fluke? I’ll have to find out over the next few weeks!!

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This week at Eurobike, Tacx has announced their latest smart trainer, the Tacx Flux. This new trainer sits at the upper edge of the mid-range electronic trainer pricing range at $899USD/€799, but pulls in features historically only seen at higher levels, notably being direct drive and ANT+ FE-C for electronic trainer control.The Flux would be the only new cycling trainer they’d release this season (aside from the Magnum treadmill, but I’ll cover that separately). However, they did roll out a substantial firmware, plus that model received a very minor external shell modification to make it compatible with more bikes.Still, the Flux is a demonstration of Tacx for the third year in a row pushing the boundaries of prices and feature alignment in the trainer space. Let’s dive into the new mini-beast. Flux Overview:Way back in early June I got to spend some time riding on a Flux while visiting the Tacx headquarters. At the time, the trainer was very much still a prototype externally, even if internally it was pretty much locked.

As you can see below, things take interesting paths from prototype to production (or, near production as it is today).The company currently has a handful of not-quite-production units to show, though they look the part of a production unit. This state is important to note because it helps to set the stage for timelines later on in terms of release/shipping dates. Here is one of those almost-production units:To begin, as is likely obvious from the above, the Flux is a direct drive trainer. That means that you’ll remove your rear wheel and affix your bike directly to the trainer. As with the Tacx NEO, and Elite and CycleOps direct drive units, you’ll have to provide your own cassette (a $50-$70 cost), plus installing said cassette. Whereas Wahoo is providing that cassette on their KICKR included in the trainer cost, but if your needs don’t match their 11-speed cassette you’re basically replacing it anyway.The Flux is a fully electronic trainer, in that your resistance can be controlled electronically from various apps on desktop or mobile devices. These apps can be anything from Zwift to TrainerRoad to Kinomap and many more.Like virtually all high end trainers these days, the unit supports ANT+ FE-C for trainer control.

Plus on the Bluetooth Smart side, apps that work with the Tacx Smart trainers already, will work with Flux. Further, it’ll broadcast out your ANT+ Speed, Cadence, and Power. Alongside the same metrics on Bluetooth Smart. This means you can pair your head unit/watch directly to the trainer to record stats. And you can.In the below photo you can see the 6.7kg flywheel, which is that silver piece that rotates as you ride to provide inertia. In my trial this summer of the unit, the road/inertia feeling felt pretty good.

Not quite as good as the NEO, but still more than sufficient for my needs. Long-time readers will know that I’m not a huge person on ‘how much does it feel exactly like the road’ when it comes to trainer inertia. For me there’s still the mental roadblock of looking at a wall and being inside, no matter how realistic the trainer inertia may feel.Now interestingly the company states that the flywheel has an effective inertia of a 22.8KG flywheel, due to the belt design.

This is similar in concept to what Elite is doing as well with a secondary flywheel inertia ‘rating’.Now the Flux does require being plugged in to power to provide resistance, which is done with a belt system inside (as seen in the prototype unit photo above). So this is a bit different than the higher end NEO, but then again.Note that the Flux does not fold-up like the NEO or most other trainers. So it’s not quite something you can slide under a bed or such.You can detach the legs though via a standard hex tool.

Two bolts on the bottom hold it in place. The unit actually ships with the leg piece detached, so it fits better in the box.Of course many wonder if this is a mini-NEO, and in some ways it is.

But there’s also a handful of other ways the unit is different than:Accuracy: It’s claimed at +/- 5%, versus the 1-2% of the Neo (more on that in a second)Calibration: Like most trainers, you will want to do a calibration/roll-down each ride to get better accuracy (which isn’t done on the NEO)Max Resistance: It tops out at 1,500w and 10% slope simulation. Those wattages are quite frankly more than sufficient for 98.6% of cyclists. And the 10% is pretty solid unless you’re doing lots of alps mountain simulation. Tacx says the unit can actually peak north of 2,000w for a few seconds before the flywheel catches back up.Flywheel: It has a virtual flywheel at 22.8kg, compared to the 125kg of the NEO. But understand the NEO is really in a league by itself. Most flywheels are in the 5-20kg range.Sound Levels: It’s audible compared to the virtually silent NEO. Not super-loud, but in the 60-70db level range, which is on par with something like the CycleOps Hammer and would be considered ‘good to normal’.

The belts lack ‘teeth’, which reduces the noise level compared to something like the KICKR. I’ll publish some video details/tests once I can get a trainer in a quiet place to do so.Now on that 5% accuracy claim, that’s their ‘worst-case’ scenario during the warm-up period. They’re hoping to get it better than that, and they noted that if you did a calibration/roll-down at about 10-15 minutes in (as is recommended for many trainers anyway), then your accuracy should be significantly closer. To put it in perspective, the 5% claim is the same as the wheel-on trainers that are a bit cheaper, including the and the. Of course, if the accuracy in my review testing ends up being closer to the 2-3% mark, then this trainer will be a very serious contender in direct drive price ranges otherwise above it (i.e.

Against the, and ).And finally, for lack of anywhere else to note it – the unit does have temperature compensation built-in. Additionally, the Flux’s belt is automatically tensioned with a spring, which they say will help to maintain calibration (and thus accuracy). A Video Overview:Check back a bit later today for a video overview of the unit in operation. At present they are finishing up unboxing their booth, and the bikes to put on said trainer haven’t quite made it out of the shipping crates yet. Once they do, I’ll attempt to steal both a bike and the trainer to give you a short demo of it, as I didn’t record my earlier riding back in June on it unfortunately. Going Forward:What’s impressive about the Flux is really the potential for it to be a very solid direct drive trainer in the sub-$1000 market.

Specifically, $899USD/€799. While we’ve seen numerous electronically controlled entrants in the $1,000-$1,200 price range (such as the CycleOps Hammer, Elite Drivo, and Wahoo KICKR), this is a substantial price drop-off of those units.Of course, the primary trade-off will be that official accuracy claim, which is less than the 2-3% seen/claimed by those other units. For some people, that won’t matter. But, and this is a pretty big but – if the accuracy of the Flux ends up being in the 2-3% after warm-up, that’ll basically make it on-par with those other units that cost quite a bit more. And in turn, that’d end up really shifting the trainer landscape from a pricing standpoint in a similar way to what Tacx did two summers ago with the release of their Smart Trainer lineup.The other ‘catch’, if you will, is the release timeframe. Right now they won’t be arriving into people’s hands until October for Europeans, and November for other continents (simply due to ocean shipping container timelines). And of course that’s assuming everything hits the production schedules.

Again, if you can hold-off until October/November for a trainer (and most people probably can), then this is most definitely a model to seriously consider.Finally, yup, I’ll be doing an in-depth review once I have a final unit to work from. My guess is that’ll be sometime in mid-late September, and thus my review would be a few weeks later in early October. With that – thanks for reading and don’t forget to check back a bit later today for some Flux video goodness (or, just and you’ll get automagically notified when it posts).Thanks for reading!Note: You can on Clever Training for arrival once it comes off the first boat from the Netherlands. By using Clever Training you support the site here, plus save 10% using DCR Coupon Code DCR10BTF.

I’ve been looking at the maximum grade the TACX machines can simulate. On the page for the Vortex, they claim 7%, but that is when the combined weight of the bike and rider is 75kg.

Above that weight, the gradient rapidly drops off to below 5%. The Bushido, on the other hand, is easily able to simulate grades of 18% for the same bike/rider combination.Garmin explain that the difference is due to the Bushido having a mechanical motor, whereas the Vortex has an electrical one.

They say that electronic motors have problems above 7% The Flux is claimed to have 10% maximum but it has an electrical motor like that Vortex. Also, it’s interesting to note that graphs detailing this data are provided on the pages for the Bushido and the Vortex, but not on the page for the Flux.page containing graph for Vortexpage containing graph for Bushido. Thanks a lot Ray. I’m about to order my new tacx after several year of Fortius and Bushido. I was sure for Neo before I came to know of the new Flux.

Since I will use it with a laptop and TTS which I already have I need to add more or less 150€ extra on top of flux street price. Now the delta price is down to 440€. I’m not competing in any race but I use the indoor trainer really a lot because I hate cold and wet season. I don not care about powermetering precision but descent and cobblestone simulation could be nice.

No problem to stay almost 3hrs on a trainer. For sure the investment will be spread on several years:) Neo immediately available, Flux in few weeks time. What is your suggestion then? I tried to ask also on twitter yesterday.

Thanks again. True.My bike repair guru tells me that its best to replace the chainwheel when the cassette needs replacing, the idea being that you don’t mix new and old. Is this just old school thinking? For me, the bike is not coming off for several months if the cassette is on the trainer!! Flatout 2 скачать iso. (that’s if i manage to put get it off the bike and put it on the trainer in the first place!).

This errs me towards a less fancy smart trainers like the vortex or the snap. With these the pain is just changing the rear tire. (sadly the magnum is beyond the size of my den, let alone wallet!!). Thanks for the info!I am having to ride in cold, windy weather here in the UK at the moment and getting desperate for a new trainer.I can get a Neo (£950), Kickr2 (£899) or Drivo (£990) delivered next Tuesday but I am holding out for the Flux because I am only paying £580GBP and it looks good in the adverts.I am going to call my supplier on Monday 14th (the date they said they’d have a Flux), see what they say and make a decision.The UK Black Friday is 25th November but I don’t think there will be any mega savings on trainers. But it’s only 2 weeks away so it might be worth hanging on until then. I am also now considering the Cyclops Hammer as this could be the best and might be available. That was a speedy response from The Master himself 🙂 Thanks DC!Kudos for providing more reliable info then Tacx themselveswell actually Tacx gives more the CYA (Cover Your Ass 🙂 ) answer: “the different shops will have gotten their own lead times.

Please check with you favorite retailer” blah blah blah 😉Slightly worrying though they seem to have so many last minute issues with Flux Some Tacx Dev Team VP will be getting a very hard time from his co-worker, the Tacx Sales VP that they are missing beginning of indoor cycing season, Black Friday etc not good for Flux Sales figures 🙂 I just hope at least it will work decently from day one and that there are no issues showing up with Batch 1. Knowing some of the issues they had to fix with big brother Neo. In general, I’d argue that a company choosing to wait until they believe they have it right and accurate is better than a company pushing out a product.For example, Kinetic started shipping their Smart Control units a few weeks ago – which by all accounts are seeing really bad power meter accuracy across the board.

Kinetic believes a firmware update should address it. Still, this type of thing should have been easily caught before it left the factory.Hopefully that’s the case here.As soon as I finish up a post I’m working on in a few mins, I’m going to validate/dive into it myself.

Just as a general update to folks, I chatted with Tacx yesterday on a call (or maybe it was the night before? Either way), regarding Tacx Flux shipping status.The current plan is that first production units will start rolling off the manufacturing line next week (just outside of Amsterdam). If said units pass QA, the first batch will be container’d up and placed on a ship to the US/Canada. Meanwhile, the second batch will hit Europe. Roughly speaking ‘batch’ in this case is all of first week’s production, and Europe all the following week. I don’t know schedules for other continents, but will ask once the first week happens.The reason for doing it that way is simply the 3-4 week lead time for shipping from Europe to US, so that gets those units on the way sooner, though European deliveries will happen virtually immediately the week after (aka mid-November).As for a test unit for me to start testing on, assuming QA of the first line units go well next week, they’ll pull one from that batch and ship it to me.

I was looking at the Flux and thought it would be better than the Neo because of Tacx knowing any development issues they had and not doing the same again with the Flux. I know it’s not exactly the same but very similar. Plus the Flux is a lot cheaper!I think a Neo would be OK but it is built with a lot of electronics and not easy to fix by the avg guy. Not that the Neo is unreliable but I have heard of a few with minor problems. Also, if there are any problems after the 1 years warranty, how much is that going to cost? It could be a very expensive buy for 1 years use. The avg ‘non-electronic’ turbo is easy to fix by comparison as it’s all mechanical with no circuit boards.

I’ve heard the Kickr is pretty bullet proof and considering one of those as well, but still a lot more than a Flux.The Neo I purchased was from. I got it for £903 delivered and was a bargain! Problem was, when I checked the delivery tracking 2 days later, it was in the centre of France! I checked the acycles web site again and even though it’s all in English and £GBP, on the ‘About Us’ page their address is actually Saint Etienne,France!I would have been OK with that but checked the Tacx warranty conditions and they only deal through the retailer you purchased it from.

So that would mean me sending it back to France if there were any problems. Seeing as I was spending £903 I wanted the warranty so didn’t sign for it when it was delivered and have claimed a refund through Paypal.I have emailed Acycles twice and they haven’t contacted me about it all week. It was delivered/refused on Tuesday. To be honest, I’m not too bothered about controlling the wattage I just want a trainer that gives the best real time ride.

I see the Kura generates it own power so you don’t need to plug it in. It will probably limit the usage though.I will read your review when you have time to test/write one but I might have made my decision by then. I sold my Bkool before I got my Neo (which I returned) so have no trainer at the moment and gagging to get on one as the weather is c.p outside here in Lytham St Annes, UK 🙁Thanks for fast reply, Ray! Thanks for the great reviews. Two quick questions. First, what happens if a course calls for a slope greater than the 10% max? Someone else asked earlier but didn’t see an answer.

Second is about power accuracy. Will it always be off the same amount in the same direction? Always 270W when reading 250W for example. Or could it be variable in error and direction from ride to ride (or even within a ride)? If its always off the same, seems like you could use another power meter you believe to adjust for the error. RayAny more info on the production casing and flex movement (comment 44) this is the decider for me as the locked in feel, is so unnatural to me and the neo is out of a justifiable price. (+Rock &roll isn’t smart)Tried a vortex on Zwift, that I didn’t like as slow watts response and I like to increase watts via cadence1st rather than torque, which just didn’t seem to gel, not sure if it was just me /needed longer test or the vortex limitations?Glad to here your be doing the 30.30 workout test for watts response.Keep the excellent reviews going.

I am also in this position. There seem to be compromises with each top end trainer and it is a process of weighing these up. I nearly pulled the trigger on a Neo, but I think having the continuing QC issues (that SO many people have experienced) without a fix is unacceptable considering the time it has been in production.

I don’t think spending £1000+ and hoping you get the ‘luck of the draw’ is right, regardless of if I can return it. I think the KICKR price point is too high now (in the UK), so the Flux is top of my list. If the accuracy is around the 2-3% after warm up as Ray suggests could be the case, I will order. Just a shame the release dates keep getting pushed back, but hopefully not too long now. The Bkool Pro I got last November only cost me £325 and got me into virtual training (I sold it last week for £250, so no trainer). That cost wasn’t too bad but spending over 3 times that amount is serious money for a trainer.

I just want the trainer with the most realistic road ride feel and I don’t mean the ‘road patterning’ feel of the Neo! The only downside with the Bkool was it didn’t feel real enough at times.

Great when you can’t get out with bad weather but if I’m spending £1k I want the best.And the QC problems with the Neo are Tacx going to suffer similar problems with the Flux? As they seem to be delaying the final release, they might have learnt lessons from the Neo and making sure it works with no issues.

Or is it that the production schedule is running late and the are now rushing to get the Flux trainers built in time? If this is the case, then the Flux could have QC issues.The Elite Drivo has a 2 year warranty which is what if making me favour that above anything else. KevinNEO was delivered2 week ago.

I brought it in my box, I discovered that most of the surrounding boxes in my building had been opened and few bikes stolen. I was so disappointed and scared that I removed my two bikes and decided to hold on a little bit with turbo trainer. I cannot afford to loose such a (big) value and at the same time I cannot take transport the NEO up and down every time I have to train. I sent it back to the seller waiting for better times for what concerning security issues.

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Having to move it around up and down stairs, etc, etc, takes the fun out of it as well as hoping it’s still there every time.As you hadn’t mentioned anything about it on here, I thought you must be very happy with it after your worries about it.I need a trainer and was considering the Neo again but ordered a Flux instead (£580GBP). It will be even more awkward to move around as it doesn’t fold up like a Neo. But it’s going to be at the earliest December before/if I get one now. I have the money to buy a more expensive one but could do with saving the money with Xmas not too far away. Currently using a fluid 2 with P2M but wanting to make the switch into the smart trainer world for the option to play Zwift how it’s designed on the “days off”.Hoping this trainer will give a realistic feel (not the cobbles type) and be suitable for structured workouts aswell as for playing Zwift etc.Do you think it’ll be suitable for structured workouts ray? I’ll mostly be using it in slope mode to reflect flat roads for TT training.Also do you know if it’ll support a “tri bike” mode like the neo to give a cda value to work with. Ordered a Flux last week through CT as part of the sale.

They didn’t carry the thru axle adapter so I started looking around. That sucker is $80 USD! Kickr’s is only $30. So for me at least, the Flux requires an $80 thru axle adapter and a cassette. That bumps the price from $900 to $1010, taking out 1/3 of the savings vs the new Kickr at $1,230 (with TA adapter).I’ve been burned twice by Wahoo not supporting their product (RFLKT+ and TICKRx HRM), but the Kickr is a known product and has better specs than the Flux I’m torn about canceling the Flux order since the price gap is lower and really, the Flux is an unknown right now (shipping date and product quality).Anyway, just a rambling heads up for any of my thru axle brethren out there looking at this.

Just as a super-quick Friday evening (European time) update. I just heard from them and my final prod unit will ship out Monday morning (didn’t quite make the cutoffs for today). I should have it by Tuesday, though, I won’t return till Wednesday evening from a trip.Obviously, for those looking to get in on the 20% sale – it won’t technically be early enough for that. However, CT does allow you to cancel orders with no issues. So you could place an order now, and then wait for my initial results next week. CT won’t get their shipments (like everyone else) for another few weeks.

So plenty of time.Some may have noticed via Twitter/etc that I got production CycleOps Magnus and Hammer trainers today as well. I’ll try and get some initial accuracy tests done over the next 24 hrs (short rides), but it’s still going to be tough to fit it in before the sale window closes tomorrow night (I’ve gotta assist The Girl on a bunch of things for the bakery).I’ll post updates to respective trainers on their respective existing posts (i.e. Magnus updates on Magnus post, Hammer on Hammer post, etc).Have a good weekend! Oh I would also love to see that hands on review.

I’ve got a Flux ordered and believe I’m part of the first batch to northern Europe. Which would result in a delivery within a few weeks. But I just realised a local store with good black Friday prizes last year had a good discount on the Neo, which would cut the prize difference to “only” 250 Euro towards the Flux. But I wonder if the difference on wattage, slope, sound and the road feel and flexibility in sideways is worth the extra cash.

Decisions, decisions. Hi All-The Taco. did indeed arrive!

ErrI mean Tacx Flux.I got it unboxed, and then did an initial ride. As promised, here’s my initial ride data:I did a calibration using TrainerRoad (FE-C control) of the trainer prior to starting, as well as at around the 11 minute marker. It was pretty good in that first 11 minutes (easily within 3-4%), but upon re-doing the calibration is got much tighter during steady-state riding (usually I was seeing it at about 2-4w off of 225w). During harder sprints you can see how it uses the algorithms vs measured power, as that first second or two you’ll see differences.

This is common on trainers without power meters internally (basically, anything under $1,200).Noise-wise, I’ll circle back tomorrow. My chain is increda-dirty, and my shifting is just a bit finicky right now. So I need to clean both up tomorrow so I can tell more clearly. I’ll record something video/audio-wise over the following days.Overall though, things look very positive. But again, it’s just one ride, and a relatively short 30 minute one.

I did do both low-cadence and high cadence, low power and high power. The estimated cadence got a bit wonky at one point, though, that’s why it’s estimated. I generally throw that away from most trainers.Finally, I plan an in-depth review on/about December 5th or 6th, which will include more detailed testing, analysis, and data.https://twitter.com/dcrainmakerblog/status/79695360. Hi RayThanks for the initial review, am looking forward to your more detailed thoughts.One question coming from a “dumb trainer” user, if you were to use the Flux in Zwift would you have to do your warm up and spin down to calibrate things before you log in to Zwift to start your main session / ride or can it be done whilst riding in Zwift?I do a calibration now using my KK Road Machine (with inRide power sensor) using their Fitness app and spindown calibration process.so wanted to see if I had to do the same using a wheel off smart trainer like the Flux?Many thanksIain. I saw the Wiggle price for the Snap but it isn’t a direct drive and I think that’s needed for the best ride. I’ve been using a Bkool (wheel drive) for 12 months and it was great apart from wheel spin on really steep climbs.

I didn’t ride steep stuff all the time but I thought the ‘ride feel’ didn’t feel real enough with videos of the route. It did get me into virtual riding though and became addictive.I sold my Bkool to buy one of the latest direct drive smart trainers as that will cut out the wheel spin AND should make the whole ride experience more true to life. It’s a big ask from me and I know how I want it to feel, but I think any of the smart direct drive trainers will feel sooo much better than the rear wheel drive Bkool. I don’t want to spend a fortune and then think a direct drive trainer isn’t that much better.My Flux (if I wait for it) is only costing me £580GBP (with some loyalty points) and could feel better than any of the more expensive smart trainers for a fraction of the price. I’m waiting on Ray’s Zwift review as that could be the decider for me to hang on for it.

No matter which trainer you buy, you’ll need an ANT+ USB stick on most PC’s to control Zwift. That’s basically what the Tacx PC Upgrade kit is. You can find such USB sticks for $20-$40USD.The KICKR has the advantage of being supported.today.

on the still-beta iPad app. Whereas the Flux doesn’t yet. That could change tomorrow, next week, or next month. Zwift hasn’t made that clear.From a pure specs standpoint, the KICKR is generally a better machine. However, the old KICKR is definitely far louder than the Flux. BTW,Based on the excellent tip of Richard, I too ordered at biker-boarder.de for the amazing price of 663 Euro using the black Friday promotion.

I was thinking though: “this is too good to be true” and I think it now is the case I just received an order cancellation without any explanation form them. + I did read a whole bunch of bad reviews about this shop in the mean time about bad experiences.

I guess I will have to add one to that. Anybody else got their Tacx Flux order cancelled by this dodgy biker-boarder.de shop?.NEWSFLASH. I was in contact with the shop’s “Kundenservice” (=customer service) and it seems I received a wrong email about a return shipment (its kinda hard to return anything if you haven’t received anything yet 🙂 ). It turns out my order for Flux @ 663 euro is still ON und meine Freunde von Kundenservice have stated they expect “the delivery man to bring Tacx Flux to the warehouse” still this week. That would mean delivery to me next week, which would be excellent.

To be continued I guess 🙂 but for now at least I have to take back the bad things I asid about biker-boarder.de above. Ray, thanks so much for the interim data from the Flux. I too have been waiting the last month or so on your assessment of it before deciding to go Flux or Kickr2. Here in Canada there is a substantial price difference in favor of the Flux so if they’re pretty close to the same thing in durability and functionality then I’d go Flux. (don’t care a lot about legs folding etc) Are you going to give another interim update based on a longer more rigorous ride/workout or are we at this point waiting on your in-depth review on the 5th of Dec.?

Thanks so much for your invaluable reviews. So helpful for purchases like this.

Hi All-Just as a bit of an update on my Zwift go with the Flux, all went well.I rode what was mostly the mountain hill climb (to the top), so while there were some initial rollers, it was mostly setting various incline levels. Still, within that mode I’m able to sprint as I see fit and validate reaction time. All well there.Like I saw with TrainerRoad, the power was within the stated 5% for the first 8-10 minutes, and then stabilized nicely. For the remainder of the ride it was within just a few watts of the Quarq and Stages – this was across a wide range of wattages from 200w to 600w.

You can view/download the files here:Overall, I’m pretty happy with it in Zwift. Obviously you don’t get the road patterns of the Neo in Zwift, but responsiveness was solid, even in sprints.Note: I saw one oddity where the Flux dropped out entirely for a few seconds around the 10 minute marker. It dropped out from Zwift, the Edge 520, and even an iOS app watching over it.

I don’t think this was actually the Flux, but rather the power outlet outlet. As the CycleOps Magnus did precisely the same thing last week.

My thinking here is cemented in that I rarely use this outlet, except for Dropcam – where I get tons of drops. I used it today because I had all the trainers lined up for my video yesterday and was running out of outlets. While my thinking (for years) has been the few second Dropcam drops were because it was underground with bad WiFi, now I’m wondering if it’s been the outlet being crap. I’ll switch to my usual power outlets and note in my Flux review if I see it again. Thanks for the updates as usual Ray, still waiting for an update from some US suppliers on arrival of their units, hopefully by roughly mid-December yet.Looking at the data it seems like something weird happened around the 40 minute mark?

Both PMs dropped slightly but the flux spiked. My gut feel looking at the numbers is that the flux was closer to 5% off after that point (reading high) compared to nearly right on before that?Obviously without mathematical comparison it’s just my eyes, but for the 40-47 minute range it seems like there is a different offset happening on the flux compared to the Stages and Quarq.

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